Living Purposefully: Insights into Change and Connection

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TIMESTAMPS:
01:30 Introducing Dr. Natalie Forest
04:03 Everyday Miracles and Authenticity
04:50 The Revolutionary Rule Breaker
06:40 Balancing Heart and Mind
08:36 The Role of Intuition
12:38 The Hidden Power of Patterns
16:00 Holistic Change and Transformation
17:59 The Impact of Comparison
24:40 Recharging and Staying Motivated
28:20 Understanding 90210 Enterprise

Emily: Welcome to the Age of Reinvention, redefine Freedom, lifestyle, and Purpose at Midlife. I’m your host, Emily Bron, and today prepare to be inspired as we welcome Dr. Natalie Forest, who embodies multiple reinventions and transformational leadership, known for her unique methodology, the hidden power of patterns.

Dr. Natalie is a visionary historian. And advocate for authenticity and extraordinary success from her pivotal roles within 9,210 Enterprise and the Los Angeles Tribune to hosting impactful workshops and podcasts. She’s bridging the gaps between heart, mind, and purpose like no other. Her work transcend borders, fostering empowerment and innovation.

Natalie’s influence is felt globally through how mentorship cannot speaking bestselling books and humanitarian efforts. Today, we will explore the wisdom and insights that have transformed countless lives. With a guest whose journey calls us to embrace our boneless potential. Let’s dive into this enlightening conversation with a remarkable Dr.

Natalie Forest. Hello, dear Natalie. I’m happy to welcome you to my studio today.

Natalie: Hello and thank you. This was, I was listening to you and I was waiting for somebody glamorous to come on the screen or something. It always sounds so

Emily: different when you hear about yourself, you’re not the person, the first person who confess with me.

But it’s how I see you after learning a little bit about you after researching the different bio and documents provided. And obviously it’s just intro and we are real people and real life and we have real life conversation. It is what I am about and actually miracles. It’s what real people do.

I truly believe in it.

Natalie: Absolutely. Absolutely. Everyday miracles. The little things can blossom into big miracles. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I remember that you and I met a few years ago when I don’t remember exactly through who, but I remember we met a few years ago and you were. Yeah, ed, it was through Ed.

Yes. Yes. And I love to see your journey as well and how, you’re not a successful podcaster and you’re sharing inspirational stories. That’s just awesome.

Emily: I’m trying to support and inspire others and we will speak about it. Natalie coming to you as my dear guest, you embraced the title of a revolutionary rule breaker.

Can you share what sparked this transformative journey for you? How did all this start? Oh, okay. Let me look at the time.

Natalie: So really what I always wanna point out to people is that this is not a title A model I came up with, it actually was when I started my mentoring journey. And I was on a podcast way back when we just did it via audio, not via video. And at the very end of a very nice conversation, all of a sudden my hostess asked me, so do you consider yourself to be a revolutionary?

And I was stunned by that question ’cause I had not seen myself as such. Those are the moments where people get to who you really are. And so while I was sitting there trying to figure out the answer, I like a movie. I saw my life in front of me, I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, I guess you could say that.

And so she prompted it within me. And at that point it was just revolutionary. Because a lot of people also see me as keeping some rules. But if you really look behind what I’m doing, it’s, I’m bending and I’m creating new rules and I’m breaking the status quo. So now I’ve actually just renamed my mentoring company.

It is now just Dr. Natalie Ford’s revolutionary rule breaker because that is what started it all. And I wanna honor that. Great start.

Emily: You work aims to foster authentic connections between heart and mind. How do you personally balance this two in your own life?

Natalie: I can say I’m very blessed that way to use that term.

I think my two brain halves work very well. So on the one hand I really have the the analytical mind ’cause I’m a trained historian, okay? So I’m trained in analyzing everything at the same time. And this may be my star sign, I don’t know. I’m a visionary, so I can really switch on and off what I need.

And in all of that, my guiding post, my guiding light is always the heart or the gut. If it doesn’t feel right, I will analyze. But if it doesn’t feel right, usually sooner or later I will follow whatever my instinct was telling me. And that’s being authentic. So I will not pretend to be someone I’m not. I.

When I go on stage to speak, I might not wear what I’m wearing right now, my slippers, but it’s still me. If you see me on the street, I will say the same things that I’m saying when I’m on the stage or when I’m with you. And so I think the more that you know yourself, the easier it is. And it’s just balanced by whatever happens.

It’s I’m guided by the little things, somebody coming in smiling, or if I see somebody who’s not smiling, I try to smile at them. I don’t really have to think about it anymore. It’s just automatic because I think you and I and most of your audience we’re here to motivate and inspire others to, to be the example.

Emily: So intuition plays a significant role in your work as a mentor. How has your intuition guided your life path, and how do you teach others to tap into theirs?

Natalie: Oh, that’s a complex question. As I mentioned, I always listen to my intuition. That doesn’t mean I act on it immediately, and usually that’s to my detriment.

I have to admit that. But don’t, if I start analyzing, it’s good because you don’t just follow the intuition, which sometimes can be ego, but I think in the end what I have learned is when I look at my intuition and I start analyzing a little bit, and I take a look at have there been other signs that are similar?

Have there been other times where I had the same feeling about this, the same intuition? Then I know I need to make a change. And I am a very loyal person, so it might take a little longer. In the end, though, what I do, what I teach my daughter, what I do with my mentees is really it all goes back to you.

Do you love and respect yourself? Do you know yourself? If those three are there, then whatever decision you make, even if it’s long term not a good one, or not the right one for that moment, you can live with it and you can withstand it, and it turns into a lesson you needed to learn. So the intuition really is to tune out the noise and just be with you.

Everybody in the world has advice for you. Most people don’t know who you are or what your desires are. So tune those people out. Say thank you for their advice, and then sit with yourself. A cup of coffee, a cup of tea, water, whatever. Go walk. We all do different things to be with ourselves, but that’s when the answers come.

And that’s what I work on really for myself every day, meditation with my daughter, with all my family members, and also with my mentees, of course. And it doesn’t have to be meditation, but it has to be a moment where you are just with you. And that’s where you can follow your intuition, right?

That’s where you learn to reconnect with your

intuition.

Emily: So never in your life the decision you made based on intuition betrayed you or been incorrect, the decision, because sometimes, we are tapping into unknown and, uncertainty. It’s what actually part of life lately. My

Natalie: intuition.

No, the analytical side. Yes. So when I had a feeling, I’m thinking about one of my mentors that I had, the first feeling was good. And after a while there was like starting to be a feeling of, huh, something is off. Something is off. I don’t know exactly what it is ’cause I like her, we’re doing lots of stuff together, but something is off.

And then, I started to analyze saying no, you just you’re still young in the mentoring business, you still need a little bit of guidance. So I started to justify, analyze and analytically she was still being a good mentor. But then on the other side, it also started showing up personally what was going on.

And so in that instance, my intuition was smack on. But the guidance from others, the advice from others who knew more than me, who were the experts and my ANA analysis, because of all of that, that held me in that relationship longer than I needed to be. Yes, it’s the analytics and the advice from others, not my intuition.

Emily: You often speak about the hidden power of patterns. Could you please elaborate on how you develop this methodology and actually what it is about?

Natalie: I use the term patterns. Other people talk about behaviors, other people talk about the subconscious mind. To me, it’s the mind. What I’m really talking about is patterns or behaviors that we are not fully conscious about.

That make and inform decisions in our daily life. So for example, when I wake up in the morning, what is the first thing I do when I open the curtains? First of all, I’m already at the curtain. How did I get there? Okay, number two, I’m opening the curtain and now I see rain coming down. What am I saying?

I’ve been trained to say, oh my God, it’s raining. Now what if I start looking at it differently and say, oh, it’s raining. Great. The grass gets what it needs. We’re going to have flowers. Those are that’s an easy example, okay. Of patterns. And we need to be aware of them. We need to say, okay, when I wake up in the morning, what’s the first thing I do?

Before I find myself in front of the curtain or brushing my teeth, what? Just how did I get there? On a deeper level? It’s the things that family, culture, society has taught us. It’s not right or wrong, it just is. Okay. So for example, me growing up in my parents’ household, overhearing certain conversations years later, finding myself in front of my office window when I was still in the US thinking, I can’t believe it.

Why am I not earning enough income with what I do? I know it’s impactful. And from the back of my mind, I hear my mother’s voice with a very important lesson and the lesson that she taught my brother and I was, you don’t need stuff. You don’t need money. You can survive on very little, which is great ’cause I don’t need stuff, but because of that idea, I don’t need a lot of money.

I didn’t ask for what I was worth. So that is a subconscious, unconscious, hidden pattern that we have. And we need to get to those things to really figure out why are we where we are in our lives. And then we need to look at it and say, I wanna keep this, or I don’t wanna keep it. And then it’s a choice, but we’re conscious about it.

I hope that helps.

Emily: No, interesting. Interesting. And I understand that it, we can speak about it. But I believe his next questions I will understand more. And last question is you. Whole life transformation Accelerator program focuses on holistic change. What is was one profound transformation you have witnessed in your client clients the deeply moved you how it works in reality?

Natalie: I think the biggest that’s a pretty easy one. ’cause I can look at everyone I’ve ever worked with. The biggest transformation was for them to say something like, I’m a good person and embracing themselves because most of them have, at one point or another, we’ve all had it, heard other things or we feel.

We just feel for some reason or another that we’re not adequate, that we don’t deserve this or we don’t deserve that. We’re always not good enough. I think a lot of people have that. And then to say, no, I am this, I am a good person, or I do love myself. I may have done stupid things, but I am okay with me.

And I think those moments especially because they usually go with this with this aha moment of. Release, crying or jumping up and down, all of a sudden it’s it’s this true release of, no, I am a good person. I do bring specific talents to this world. I am a needed individual on this planet.

When that happens, all just because of recognizing of who they really are. That’s it. That’s the common theme. That’s the common theme, yeah.

Emily: Why do you think so many people concern these, this, that they’re good as a people, as professionals, as a parent, sometimes what’s going on that, actually, by the way, conscious people, thinking about it, concerned about it, why we have this uncertainty of our, legitimacy of our good doing

Natalie: every day. So first, good is just a word for me. I usually try not to use good or bad, but it is, it’s the idea that we live in a world that is based on comparison. Okay? So my neighbor has two kids. I have one kid. How is she able to handle two kids?

I can barely handle one kid or the neighbor saying she didn’t clean the yard again. Okay? It’s all those little things. And it starts in school. It starts actually in kindergarten or pre-kindergarten, okay? Where we being compared with one another. Okay? So little Julie speaks more precisely than you little Josephine.

And all of a sudden I’m like, oh, she speaks better. So it’s ingrained in much of what society is showing us and enveloping us in. Therefore, since we’re constantly bombarded with comparisons, which car should I buy? Where should I live? What house? And it’s always about others, right? Others are doing better in your, in my business.

Okay? Which is the business of mentoring and trying to elevate people. Okay? There are those that make a million dollars, who charge $500,000 for a weekend. Yes. And then you see all the advertisements. I will show you how to do it. So it’s the pressure of, oh my God, I’m not making $500,000 for a weekend. Oh my God.

Oh my God, am I good enough? Why am I not having thousands of clients? Okay? It’s on every level. From the little kid all the way up to where we are today. And if you are not okay with who you are, if you don’t say yes, Emily does great. I’m so happy for her that she is making $500,000 for that weekend.

That’s awesome. I live in lack. If I say the opposite, but if I say what I just did say, Hey, congratulations Emily, awesome job, then I’m okay with it because I understand we cannot be compared, but both podcasters, but you do your thing differently than I do my thing. You are a different type of mentor than I am.

If I know someone who benefits from you, I’ll send them to you because I believe there’s enough for everyone and I know who I am and what my strengths are. But if you ask people randomly on the street or in a coaching workshop speaking, and you ask them, who are you? I am a mom, I’m a daughter. They will give you their name.

I’m Natalie. I’m a daughter, I’m a mom, I’m a cat person. I’m this, okay. The I, who’s the I are you. Really? 20,000 things. So who are you in your heart? Who are you when there’s nobody around? ’cause then you’re not a mom. If you, if your daughter is sleeping over someplace else, yeah, you’re still a mom, but now you’re like alone at home.

So who are you? And most people don’t know who they are. Witches. Why? For example, when children, those people who have children, when children go off to college, a lot of marriages fall apart. Why is that? Because they didn’t get to know each other. They don’t know who they are outside the kids. Outside the constant taking one kid here, taking the other kid there, making sure dinner’s on the table, builds their pay.

Each individual does not know who they are.

Emily: Or they changed. Or they changed over the years. They’re all changing. Reinventing, transforming, yes. But

Natalie: then in that relationship, you still need to talk to one another. And if the relationship is bad, sorry. You need to split when the relationship is bad and not wait until your kid is in college because then you are free.

So they are like these things. Transformation happens, which is awesome, but communication is still our tool. So communication with myself, communication with my spouse, communication with whoever needs to understand that. I am evolving and through that communication we can then say, I’m evolving. Are you okay with it?

And if the other person says, no, I’m not, then we can say thank you for being on my side as a friend, spouse, whatever, for all these years. I think I’ve learned enough from you and you’ve learned enough from me and you move on with love because they are not where you are anymore. So your transformation involves also changing the people you surround yourself with.

Emily: Interesting concept. No. It’s simple as you say, but in reality there is so much drama around and how hard the separation for many people and divorce and it’s hard on children, on, on people involved. And exactly what you

Natalie: just said. Yes. Sorry to interrupt, but exactly what you just said.

We’ve got this image that separation is hard on the children, right? I just went through a divorce. Okay. Yes, it is hard on children, but what is harder? Having two unhappy people live together and you are in the mix and one of your parents is never available anyhow. Or is it better to say, I’m with one of my parents who is now happy or happier and I can see my other parent whenever I want.

They are going to be happy. So it’s like what is not what is better, but what serves the individual best? And it differs for some people it is staying together. Absolutely. We just need to make a conscious choice and explain it

Emily: to everybody involved.

I wish I would have this conversation years ago when I was going through divorce and different observations, but you speak often about boundless potential.

How do you recharge your energy to stay motivated and trans trustworthy to your purpose through these challenging times? And I’m speaking about challenging times in personal life, in what is going on around because level of uncertainty, it’s very huge. What do you do, your recipes for yourself?

Natalie: First of all, I believe that every individual is here for a reason.

There are no mistakes. Okay. Whether I agree with that person or what they’re doing, whether I agree on some kind of event or not is a different story. But I believe that there is a reason why every individual is here. That means every individual has great potential. Okay. To do good. They can also do not good.

But I believe in the good of people and the way that I see the world spiritually really has me working very hard every day on understanding that. There is a reason why this is happening right now. There’s a reason why this happened a few years ago. Maybe it’s my historical background. That can be too.

So I see that we’re going through waves patterns, okay? Because of my historical understanding, there are certain things where I’m extremely calm, and because I myself meditate every day, at least once or twice longer, periods of half an hour, not that long, okay? I do spend time in nature. I do communicate with myself.

I have two cats and a daughter, and the recharging happens when I see my daughter smile. When I can arrange something good for my daughter. When the cat comes up to me when I’m in meditation and I get an idea, I. When one of my mentees says, oh yes, I got it, or something like that. Or when I can help a company go to the next level.

So it’s the little miracles in every day that I focus on, whether it’s, one of our favorites in my house is when the sun is shining through and you see the ray of the sun coming through the clouds and you can see it, you can identify the ray of the sun. There’s we just stand there and go, wow.

And all of a sudden you’re like, okay, I can go on. And there are times when I’m tired, okay, because I live in Germany, obviously my major business partners, they live in la that’s a nine hour time difference. So I have late meetings and that means, until midnight and so forth. And there are times when I’m like, no, I’m sorry, I need to go to bed.

And it’s related to what we’re working on at that time. Because at other times when I’m putting together a big speaking event, I work until two o’clock, no questions asked. I don’t, at 2:00 AM I don’t even have to think about it. I look at the clock, I go, Ooh, it just happened last Saturday. So I think it has to do with whether we’re on purpose and how we’re creating our environment.

I have crystals everywhere. I have pictures that when I look up, I can see that inspire me immediately. So my surrounding is like that, and I try to take care of myself as much as I can.

Emily: Thank you. Thank you. And I know that you have previously served in numerous leadership roles in different organizations.

Currently, you as a president and vice president of Media for 9,210 Enterprise, and you also host of this company, podcast and editor in chief of 9,210 Magazine. Like for me, when I learned actually what is 9,210 Enterprise. It was like hard to match all together with my understanding of who you are and what is the value you bring.

No, you bring enormous value. I was just trying to match all together. So first of all, please tell us about this enterprise. What is about ecosystem, its mission and programs and if you can, about the leaders, because I heard about Ashcan, Tabibian, Nia, and I know Joseph McGuire by the way, and, but. Please explain me what is about and what is your role?

Like I, I named the role, like how all come together?

Natalie: Okay. That’s a great question because I’ve been asked that before. So first of all, in everything that I do, there’s always a common thread. Okay? And because I have these two brain apps that work very well, I can switch what role I’m playing. 9 0 2 1 oh enterprise is the creation of a community of change makers.

Okay? It’s not just entrepreneurs. It’s not just leaders of organizations or what have you. It is truly a community of like-minded individuals and we have. Real relationships. Now it is called 9 0 2 1 oh because that is actually the zip code for Beverly Hills. Okay. Beverly Hills, California.

And that goes with glamor success, all of those stereotypes. Okay? What we are creating is an ecosystem where you are connected through us identifying who’s good for you from our vast network. So you mentioned Ash Nia, he’s the visionary of this enterprise, of this community. He has about 20,000 relationships, and relationships, not likes on LinkedIn or Facebook relationships.

We have relationships with over 200 organizations and companies. So if somebody comes to us, we have 12 areas in which we can support them. Okay. If you are looking to buy a home, we have a real estate vertical. Okay? So we have trusted people that can help you find a home or sell a home, okay? We also have production or events, and this is where we put on events for our members, many of whom are entrepreneurs, speakers, coaches.

We put on events for our members and to share our message. And those are events or productions, and they go live or they go. So in live, in person or virtual, we just had black history Month. At the end of this month, we’re gonna have a small event just celebrating women. Okay. Those are our events where we can highlight and add to the biography of our members.

Because if you’re speaking in an internationally acclaimed environment, you know how that works. Then you are now an international speaker. You are a speaker. So that is something else. We, of course, do have our coaching where we work with you to really find out why are you here? Because a lot of our members they.

Let me leave it. They wanna live, they wanna do good, but they don’t necessarily are living their legacy right now. And we don’t have to wait until the tombstone is there and then, oh, he was known for, no, let’s live it now. So we are helping you, especially Ashcon. ’cause he has a very specific process.

It’s called the Trifecta Mastermind. He identifies some things and then I come in and I add the heart and the inspiration and the the intuition to it. And we get out of the, of our members what serves them, and then we support them in getting there. Whether it’s writing a book, speaking at events buying or selling home, putting up their nonprofit foundation, making sure that legally their business is stable.

There are a lot of things that are not. So that’s what we’re doing there. And how does that fit with who I am? Number one, I get to mentor, I get to coach, and my organizational side is helping putting everything together so that it serves humanity well. And that’s when I bring in as do all of our other amazing C-level members.

Then we bring in other companies, other partners, other people that can in addition, support what we’re doing. It’s a lot, don’t get me wrong, we have 12 verticals. It’s a lot.

Emily: Yes. And probably we need another hour to speak only about verticals, but how do authentic connections between heart and mind and spiritual practices you promote?

Work and resonate with the high profile clients from zip code 90 to hundred 10, which is mainly associated with wealth and luxury. Because actually I, I realized that what is strange name and I read about it and all what is associated with number, how it’s all go together for you.

Natalie: Yeah. Very simple.

I don’t focus on those who have money. Okay. But I want everybody to feel like they have a lot of money. And if that is their goal to make a lot of money, then we’ll get you there. So in my role, I’m putting this. Enterprise, I help put this enterprise together and lead it to bring in all of the community members that can support one another in whatever your goal and whatever your legacy might be when you live your purpose.

And it goes back to a previous question you asked me. When you are living your purpose, you feel like a million bucks. It’s not about you needing the Lamborghini, it’s about you being happy with your Fiat Mini driving around, because that’s the car you really always want it. So the idea of the 90210 is incorporated in what we do because we appreciate individuals on that level.

You are an important gemstone and so if you are an important gemstone, we wanna bring out. Your potential, and that’s what I help do, whether it is by writing a story about you doing an interview with you on in our magazine or interviewing you on a podcast or whether it is just by putting things together and helping you identify through our mentoring session through 9 0 2 1 oh what you really wish to do.

So that’s how it goes together. It’s not about just the rich, absolutely not. But you are a gemstone. So let’s have you shine.

Emily: Thank you. If your daughter had to describe you in three words. What would they be?

Natalie: My daughter in three words. I gotta think what she would say. She would prob, I hope I can’t verify that.

I hope she would say I’m crazy in a loving way. ’cause we both believe that we are crazy. On, on and weird, let me use the word weird because weird if you look in the dictionary also means supernatural. So I think she would call me weird and loving and

supportive. I think that’s what she would say. I can’t guarantee that but I think that’s what she would say. How old is she? 13 and a half going on 32. She’s very mature sometimes. She’s a 13 and a half year old, but she has done a lot, she has experienced a lot positive things. Okay. She worked with me on social projects when she was seven and eight years old.

So she has, she’s very mature and very driven. So she knows what she wants. And yeah, so that’s why I’m saying she officially, she’s 13 and a half, but sometimes when you talk with her, you think you have an adult with lots of life experience next to you.

Emily: I wish her the best. You mentioned a passion and you speak about it for combining spirituality with history.

If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be and why?

Natalie: Isis. Queen Isis from Egypt. You okay? See? I’m weird. That’s okay.

Emily: Can you a little bit elaborate because I don’t remember what she did. Like why she’s her?

Natalie: ISIS was probably one of the most influential queens of Egypt.

And her and her husband Osiris had a very interesting relationship. He got torn apart, that’s the mythology. He got torn apart and she helped put him back together even though supposedly he had a relationship with her sister. Okay okay. So yeah, it’s weird, but she put love first. She cared about.

Her people in that sense. It’s a myth, mythological way to look at it. She cared about the people. She was able to see the good in people and help them move forward in positive ways. And I have always, ever since I’ve been born, she was my go-to person. So I do lots of meditations and things with her in mind.

And that sounds weird, but that’s okay. My first business was called Healing isis, so that might tell you something. She was just, she’s just an enormously influential and strong individual who I think we can all learn a lot from because in the end it was about healing and bringing everybody back together from a heart of love.

And that’s what is important to me.

Emily: But for me, she’s part of mythology. She’s not historical figure. And I was asking about historical figure.

Natalie: I think since every God or goddess is has always at some point had somebody in life, so to me she is as well a spiritual mythological figure as a historical figure.

But if you’re asking me about someone who literally walked the earth then.

Emily: It would probably be Abraham Lincoln. Okay. So you still on American side of like vision, and I know that your major was in American history, correct? That was the PhD.

Natalie: I, I have a number of majors, but Yes.

The reason why I’m picking Abraham Lincoln is because I think he is underrated. I know a lot of people talk about him, but I think there are a lot of accomplishments that he has personally had that are not acknowledged.

Emily: Even there is a big monument and he’s here and there. Yeah.

But these are monuments

Natalie: for the official things that he has done in politics. Not in his personal life. So what he has overcome in his personal life, I think is more important. And, I could say Gandhi, I could say, man, Nelson Mandela.

Emily: No,

Natalie: you say what you say. And he’s if I, if you give me 10, it’ll be easier.

But Abraham Lincoln was the first one that intuitively came out.

Emily: Great. So your intuition helping you. And okay. A little bit segue. You were involved in different initiatives over the life, including the Los Angeles Tribune, and I believe you still participating in the work of this newspaper and executive director for the woman of global change here.

I don’t know, kind of anything and. I believe these roles align with your spiritual mission in life. Can you elaborate a little bit, especially about the second organization, woman of Global change?

Natalie: Absolutely. I’ve been executive director or lead in one way or another for a number of women’s organizations.

The Women of Global Change was pretty solid but small. When I came on board and we turn, we created a lot of chapters for it because the idea was to connect the business growth. With immediate given, giving back. And, that’s like a pattern of mine. Okay, if I win, then you should win.

That’s my honest belief. What we did was in the chapters and in our international summits, it was always, it wasn’t just a big hooray and yay we learned from each other. We grew each other’s business, and then we served in the community. And that was the heart of the matter, whether it is going out to paint a school that had been devastated by a tornado or serving and helping refurbish the house of women who had been.

Not treated very well whether it is with orphans, whether, it doesn’t matter what it was. So that was, that is very much, heart and soul. Heart and mind, what I do. And from there, it was while I was in that organization, helping it grow and so forth, that I met the now very well established leader, CEO of the Los Angeles Tribune.

And when I left the Women of Global Change he asked me to help him build up the Los Angeles Tribune because he had just bought it and it was an old paper. We created pretty much what today. A brand that. Is focused on education, on positive messaging via print and via lots of online events that most of the time are free.

All the online events are free. And then, having some coaching on that and big shout out to them because they just got nominated for Pulitzer prices. So the reporting is also very important. And in that, to talk about intuition, when I was working for the Tribune as the vice president, I also helped create all the blueprint and things.

That’s when I met Ashia. And so when I officially moved to Germany I told Mo Rock, I said, I don’t think I can keep doing what I’m doing because I’m nine hours away. So let’s have me scale back. I still can write columns. I still participate in some of them, but I’m pretty much hands off at this point when it comes to the Tribune.

But that’s when I met Ashcon and then Ashcon, very much. This is a great example of authentic and respectful relationships. Ashcon talked to Mo and said, now that Natalie’s no longer with you, would it be okay if she works with me because they’ve been friends and strategists. And Mo said, of course.

And that’s what in 9 0 2 1 oh Enterprise. That’s what we foster. It’s not, oh, Emily, you look interesting. Let me contact you. But it is. Emily I met you through Ed. I wanna thank Ed for that. I’m gonna ask Ed if it’s okay that I work with you. It’s that kind of approach that we wanna take. And so now I’m with 9 0 2 1 oh and my auditorium.

Emily: Yes. Yeah. And the last one I even don’t know what this word means. Sorry. Yes, that’s okay. Don’t worry about the word. Okay.

Natalie: It’s some secret project. You no, it is a multimedia platform that is revolutionary because it is the first multimedia platform of its kind where everyone. Wins. Okay. So it is multimedia.

It has films, it has trailers, it has music videos. It has music. It has also, which no other one does trainings like real important coaching and other trainings. And you as a creator can be vetted and upload materials. I, as a viewer, can earn money by watching content and by sharing content. So it’s very unique and the focus, how it all fits.

It’s only positive messages. It’s only positive messages. There’s no hate speech. There are no commercials. There’s no advertising. It’s just movies. Our movies of other people, documentaries, we call them hero Spotlight Interviews with influential people who share a little bit of their nuggets. It’s this big, broad range of everything you could want to have, and it’s all positive.

It already launched. There are a lot of subscribers. Oh, yes. Oh yes. We are growing and growing. Yes. We’re actually now growing exponentially in Germany.

Emily: And people need more positive not only messages, ideas leaders. And telling the truth what motivate me to launch this channel.

And by the way, I’m not coach, I’m not mentor. I’m not considering myself this, it’s just understanding that especially for 50 plus professionals, I cannot help everyone. But I hope that with episode and with the discussion and with my dear guests that I’m selecting, I’m giving different perspective different experience, but it’s all real life story and inspiration or maybe ideas to be entertained by followers who on a brink of changes that this time is offering to all of us.

And yes, I even don’t have yet. I’m still growing. I’m still feel I’m baby or on this path with baby steps. I’m not baby but I believe even if one or two people, I will get some practical or spiritual, advice or support. I would think that my mission in this one is accomplished.

Even. I really interested to to grow and actually get more connections with the people like you. And so your activity and causes you participated spread around the world. What is one country or culture that has profoundly influenced your outlook? So you actually German who, who lived for many years in United States.

You come back to your home country and city Hamburg, and you working internationally. You are student of history and teacher of history. And what culture over the, all these years influenced you at most? I don’t think I can answer

Natalie: that question because I see myself as a global human being. I’ve studied so many different cultures.

The closest I might get would be to native Americans, indigenous peoples, but I have never lived in the jungle. I cannot say that I can live in the jungle, but the outlook on life and of course ancient Egypt and there were always, I am very European. I’ve noticed that.

And the next country, that is my goal to move to is Italy. And it is it is something that I knew when I was young. When I was young, it was either the United States or Italy, and I happened to get a scholarship to the United States. So now I gotta go to the other side.

Emily: No, but it’s reasonable.

I understand you. And I think it’s close by and yes. We all need more sun and beauty,

Natalie: yes. And I like my cappuccino,

Emily: so I like cappuccino. Yeah. Cappuccino and Dolce vita and all this ambience. Even Italy is going through the, every country is going through the changes. I fully with you on it.

And

I, you are committed advocate for education and mental health. What pressing issues in these areas do you believe need more attention right now?

Natalie: Oh God. They’re both connected. They’re absolutely connected. So I think it all starts with education and not an educational system because the root of the word is very different from what you see anywhere else in the world right now.

And education’s one of the reasons why I left the United States. I have to admit that. So dure means to gain experience and wisdom for life. A lot of what is happening in education is not about life. It is about setting up a structure that is, as I mentioned earlier, comparative and competitive. And I don’t believe that’s what we need.

Everybody in my opinion, has the right, the human right to an education. It should be free for everybody, and everybody learns differently. Okay. I am very visual and I draw while I learn. Okay. Another person learns better by hearing another person wants to use the computer. We have so many different talents and we’re squashing them by demanding young people and old people to sit at a desk for 40 minutes, for 45 minutes, for 90 minutes.

I, I can do it ’cause I love research. Don’t get me wrong. I can sit there. I can sit there. Yes, I can do that for hours. I can go into the archive and sit there for hours. No worries. But that’s not how we learn. We learn by touching and by feeling. So we need to get our kids out in nature and touch and feel.

We need to let them run around because our brains are the best computers in the world. If we’re comparing our brains to a computer, number one, we’re shutting our brain computer down because it’s overloaded. What we do with this computer that you and I are sitting in front of is from time to time we hit save and from time to time we say clear out the cache.

And from time to time, hopefully every night we turn it off, okay? And after this podcast, you and I probably are both going to get up and walk for a few minutes or do something else. That’s not how it works in schools. You sit there for 90 minutes, then you run to the next class, then you run to the next class, and you sit again.

Unless it’s sports or athletics, okay? That’s not how we learn. So we need to give our brains and something else. I teach my mentees as well. We need to give our brains break time. We need to say save. And what is in those archives up here that I don’t need? Let me get rid of the clutter. So education impacts our mental health because it’s proven that our kids today are stressed to the nth degree.

And then in addition to us helping them be stressed we diagnose ’em with all sorts of stuff because they wanna walk around. I know A DHD exists, don’t get me wrong, but sometimes a child or an adult may not have a DHD. They just learn better by walking around. I learn, I like, I do my best work when I’m walking.

Yes. And nor, in the US I still had my computer up and I had a little stepper underneath. I did amazing work. So I. We need to fix both by paying attention to the individual and their likes

Emily: and dislikes. How educational system is different in, in, in Germany oh, I, I know that many parents, and I was speaking about it in United States over the last years, put the children to the, online or homeschooling.

So many people speaking about it in again I, in my knowledge, very limited knowledge in Germany there is very strict system, educational system as well. Even it’s different. So how it’s working now. In your case,

Natalie: the German system also can benefit from an upgrade. Absolutely. But I grew up here and I remember how it used to work with the focus.

Of course, we still had to sit in all of that. Don’t get me wrong. Okay. We were taught to think and discuss. Okay. Anything and everything we needed to know, how to argue, how to support our points, whatever point that was. Okay. Even in math, yes, you still had to learn some of the formulas and stuff, but then if you were able to explain why you did it a certain way, if it was right, you got the point or whatever.

Okay. And it’s of course still, comparison 1, 2 6 or a 2 2, 2 2 F in the us there’s not a lot of room to think. My daughter actually wrote a poem while when we were still over there and it was called Creating Robots, okay? And I was teaching at a college, and my students who had AP classes often had questions that were mind boggling.

I could not believe where this question was coming from. If you had history in school and you were actually advanced history, okay, they didn’t know how to write complete sentences, how to make an argument. The exams are multiple choice. That is not learning and thinking. I had to write multiple choice exams.

I cannot answer them because if you ask me, when did World War II start, when did World War I start? I can give you a date when the first shot was fired, but where did it really start? It started way before because people were doing certain things and we can’t understand history or the world we live in today.

If we do multiple choice and multiple choice means which two fit the least, which two are possible? Let me play bingo. Okay. That’s pretty much it. So that’s the issue. In the United States particularly, and I see it a little bit coming up here now, but it’s also very different. The German system is stricter in one in, in one major sense is you have to go to school.

So we do not have permission to homeschool, which I do not agree with. But that is so that no child is really not able to get a free education. So I get the idea behind it. Okay. But other than that I think education is still much better when I look at my daughter, she has to think and that’s what I think is crucial in the world today.

Emily: Absolutely agree with you. And I understand that the classic education even, I was raised in a different system like in former Soviet Union and but it’s still this European system and I see result of my two daughters raised in, in Canada. And it’s not their fault. It’s a system.

Despite my all attempts, the additional clubs, private teachers tours here and there, but knowledge of history and understanding of how world and society was developing over the centuries. It’s what many people are missing and that’s why they make wrong decision like in a big scale.

And even now in United States, as they see, they trying to change completely, like drastically the educational system, which kind of common sense under the circumstances. The question, what you bring instead, but it’s a different, but I believe like the results and actually mental health issues that all West is witnessing like I cannot say about other countries because statistic coming from, United States, mostly Canada and different countries, it speaks a lot about the actually connection between education and mental health.

That’s why I asked you this question.

Natalie: And there

are in many countries there are homeless students. I, a friend of mine works on that. So students who don’t have a home and their only place to go is, this is not directly there, but the only place to get water, maybe be able to take a shower that’s at school.

And we have that in every country in the world. And the third world countries are not the worst in that they’re first world countries who are worse. How do they feel when they see others and when they’re being picked on because they’re wearing the same pants for the fourth time. That’s all as well.

Mental health and they’re trying, but I don’t think we give people enough credit for trying. We’re always just focused on the result. And there is no overnight success. There is no overnight love. It just doesn’t exist. It takes time. Let’s honor the time. Let’s respect the time people put into achieving whatever it is they’re achieving.

And the most important a achievement is to know and love yourself because then you can give that out to the world.

Emily: I can speak for hours with you for our followers who are midlife professionals in redefining the purpose and life direction during the enormous changes we are going through now.

Economic uncertainty, political instability like worldwide, and the quickly changing job market due to the implementation of AI tools and the new industrial revolution. Many people speaking about, what spiritual and life advice would you give them to overcoming all these challenges and staying calm, balanced and empowered to discover boundless potential after 50, regardless what’s going on?

Great question.

Natalie: So first I would say go back to what I said earlier. You are here for a reason and you are here now for a reason. Because based on your experiences, you bring something invaluable to this world that nobody else can bring. Even if we were all born on the same day, we all have different experiences.

We come from different countries, and even if we’re all born in the same city and the same hospital. We all bring something different. So number one, you’re here for a reason. Number two, you’re here now for a reason because you have something that the world needs, okay? A best way to go about it is to do a little bit of analysis of all the lessons you’ve learned and all the lessons you’ve taught, and it’ll show you, I’ve done this a lot.

It’ll show you why you are here and what your mission is. Okay? Might not be what you think it is, but that is key. And once you have that, once you understand you’re here for a reason, and you connect that with knowing yourself and understanding who you are, you look at your life and you go, I’ve done all that.

I’ve overcome, survived all this. Yeah, this is sweet. I can do this. Because you are honest. You are authentic, so you will be fine. It may be a little rough waters, but you’ll come out at the end having taught important lesson, having learned important lessons. So as rough as it gets, understand that you are important.

You bring something to the world and there are no accidents. So whatever happens for a reason, and you are here to make the world a better place, especially in rough times. So just go with

Emily: the flow and adjust. Thank you, Dr. Natalie for sharing your wisdom, stories, advice. You inspire me and others to aim higher and pursue a life aligned with purpose.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

What is a fascinating conversation was today with Dr. Natalie Forrest from uncovering the Hidden Power of Patterns to exploring ways of bridging cultural and spiritual divides, Natalie insights testament to how extraordinary influence and impact. Today’s discussion highlights the importance of authenticity, innovation, and finding genuine connections between heart and mind. Dr. Natalie’s global advocacy in education, mental health and sustainability inspires us to reflect to our path and potential. And thank you dear listeners, for being part of this journey. If you enjoyed today’s episode, please subscribe and leave a review.

Continue tuning into the age of reinvention for most stories and wisdom to inspire your path to reinvention. Until next time, stay inspired and remember, it’s never too late to redefine your freedom. Lifestyle and success. Take care and keep reinventing.

Natalie Forest, Ph.D.

Spiritual Life-Transforming Mentor

Natalie Forest is a Spiritual Life-Transforming Mentor and Revolutionary Rule Breaker who guides changemakers—especially women at a crossroads—back to themselves so they can live life on their terms, with joy, self-love, and no regrets. An intuitive transformational mentor, Natalie is also an international speaker, best-selling author, CEO, columnist for The Los Angeles Tribune, board member of ATL Europe, Figjam blogger, and proud mom. In 2017, she was honored with the 2016 President Barack Obama Presidential Volunteer Service Lifetime Achievement Award.

Ever wonder what it truly means to reinvent yourself? How can transformation—from breaking old patterns to embracing new opportunities—unlock our hidden potential? I recently explored these questions on The Age of Reinvention podcast with the remarkable Dr. Natalie Forest. Renowned for her transformational leadership and innovative strategies, Dr. Natalie offers fresh perspectives on personal growth, purpose, and empowerment. Let’s dive into the conversation and uncover the wisdom and insights she shared.

Who Is Dr. Natalie Forest?

Dr. Natalie Forest inspires people to dream big while staying grounded in their authentic selves. As a historian, transformational leader, and innovator, she collaborates with organizations like 9210 Enterprises and the Los Angeles Tribune to bridge gaps between heart, mind, and purpose. 🌎

Her global impact—spanning authentic connections, empowerment, and innovation—is unrivalled. From her vibrant leadership roles to her advocacy for mental health and community-building, Dr. Natalie defines positivity and transformative energy.

The Art of Reinvention

What does reinvention mean to you? For Dr. Natalie, it’s a lifelong journey. On the podcast, she described how embracing the role of a “revolutionary rule breaker” empowered her to challenge the status quo and redefine leadership.

Through her journey, Dr. Natalie underscored that reinvention is about courage. It’s about being bold enough to question existing norms and having the confidence to establish principles in personal and professional life.

Balancing Your Heart and Mind

One of the most profound ideas Dr. Natalie shared was her approach to balancing intuition with analytical thinking. 🧠💖 She has mastered aligning her gut instincts with practical strategies to achieve her goals.

This balance isn’t merely a personal tool; she actively teaches others. Whether guiding mentees or large organizations, she empowers individuals to create these connections. And this alignment matters! When heart and mind are in sync, individuals feel more fulfilled, energized, and ready to tackle life’s challenges.

Uncovering the Hidden Power of Patterns

Dr. Natalie’s signature insight is the hidden power of patterns. Often unbeknownst to us, our lives are governed by subconscious behavioural patterns that greatly influence our choices.

By identifying and understanding these patterns, Dr. Natalie helps individuals make informed decisions, empowering them to break free from limiting beliefs and replace ineffective habits with productive ones. Her methodology has transformed countless lives, proving that change begins with self-awareness.

Transformation Through Authentic Connections

Dr. Natalie doesn’t focus solely on individuals—she is equally passionate about community growth. Her collaboration with organizations like Women of Global Change demonstrates her commitment to global empowerment, education, and connection.

Blending historical insight with spiritual alignment, she offers a distinct leadership style that resonates personally and globally. This authentic approach invigorates anyone seeking transformational change in their professional or personal lives.

Advice for Midlife Professionals

Navigating midlife can be daunting, especially in fast-evolving job markets and economic uncertainty. Dr. Natalie’s advice? It’s simple yet powerful:

You are here for a reason.

Embrace your background, skills, and life experiences, as they hold immense power! Dr. Natalie reassures us to approach challenges confidently, allowing resilience and purpose to illuminate our paths. 🌟

Closing Thoughts

Dr. Natalie Forest’s story and teachings remind us of the extraordinary potential within reinvention. Whether tapping into your intuition, identifying subconscious patterns, or reimagining your approach to leadership, her guidance serves as a beacon for anyone ready to pursue freedom, purpose, and success.

If you’re curious about your transformation, I highly recommend exploring more of her work. Let Dr. Natalie’s wisdom inspire you to reach new heights and embrace every challenge as part of the beautiful journey of reinvention.